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Found 433 log entries for 2012-08-08
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still nothing. does davem stay up when the moon?
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well I am talking to myself right now
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good time to call it a night why am I up anyway?
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OF 0625 ie
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ynpvisitor9 changes nickname to lc
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pretty sure that was a long
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ynpvisitor81 changes nickname to Janet
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think so
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morning Janet
06:30:54
Good morning. :)
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ynpvisitor36 changes nickname to Dave from B
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Good morning, lc and Janet and 46
06:32:29
morning Dave
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Good morning Dave
06:37:02
Cooler mornings make it seem like every little hole is erupting
06:37:49
I love watching the steamy mornings.
06:38:42
They are beautiful, especially if you are in the basin
06:41:34
Yes, but I'm so very grateful to have them join me at least this way as I work on my coffee. :)
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ynpvisitor82 changes nickname to cb
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Good morning Janet Dave lc and #48
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morning cb
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oops 46
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morning cb
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how you this morning?
06:46:53
I don't know yet... :/
06:47:02
doing well as usual (I'm a morning person)
06:47:05
cofffee is brewing!
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how bout you?
06:47:18
ready for my 2nd cup already
06:47:30
very good
06:48:23
we plan to make 2nd trip labor day.
06:48:51
REALLY? That's wonderful!!
06:49:06
for how long?
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fun!
06:49:39
9 days
06:50:24
Bill and I are still rolling around the idea of Oct.
06:51:19
short days, cold nights then.
06:51:25
coffee's done brb
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We hope to get back in Sept or Oct - it depends on Mike's work schedule.
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I'm sure I'll get up again, but its always so much nicer when he's along.
06:53:26
we have never gone this late.
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ahhhhhhhhh! :)
06:54:15
September is wonderful.
06:54:36
I've been lucky with weather when there in October
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Alot of GGers have plans for the park in that same time period
06:55:24
This will be our 3rd Oct trip! Its nice, different than in the bustle of summer!
06:55:25
Not sure I want to go back again ever in July - I don't do well in that heat.
06:56:01
we will probably get to meet "new gazers".
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We're also thinking about doing a winter trip or two this year
06:56:34
I think Pat will be there then
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Still no plumes?
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no
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06:57:38
:(
06:57:38
Dep. looks hot
06:57:56
yes it does. Thought i'd ck it out
06:58:49
Morning, cb
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Lion 0659
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nice eruption, wonder if initial.
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Could be...hard to tell when eruption ends
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Morning Dave!
07:05:37
I was wonderiing the same
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initial at 2112 last night, could be same series.
07:07:29
steamy agaiin this morning!
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ynpvisitor25 changes nickname to Kitt
07:11:48
morning all
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Morning, Kitt
07:12:06
looks smokey also
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Good morning, Kitt. :)
07:14:39
is that rift eruptig?
07:15:02
ello Kitt
07:15:06
Hello
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sticky keys
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hello
07:17:35
morning KItt
07:17:38
Back to work Kitt?
07:18:23
yes, I put the mat back together and yesterday I moved all of the furniture back into the class
07:19:08
BH at 0230 this morning
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yes. i just log those into GT's
07:19:36
were you awake?
07:20:22
So, does HK ever sleep?
07:20:48
Like us, when we get home!
07:20:48
Or is he just relaying times from other gazers?
07:20:48
yes, raight after Grand
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right
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Ranger is headed out to download
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maybe I will get to see bee after work today
07:23:17
although it is quite the same as being there
07:23:58
post park syndrome hitting you Kitt?
07:24:27
no, I'm still sorting stuff for next trip in
07:24:44
Labor Day weekend
07:25:20
Hopefully all of the chip seal stuff has been cleared off the road between the East Entrance and over Sylvan
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it was 25 mph coming down and you needed to pay close attention because it was slippery
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I felt bad for the motorcyclists
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Grand 726
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Gramd
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Grand
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0726
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pretty steamcloud
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It knew people were wanting breakfast
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Have a nice day, time to get ready for work
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Bye Kitt
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haave a good day Kitt
07:29:55
have a good one!
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ynpvisitor34 changes nickname to Kevin L
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morning Kevin
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Hi
07:33:13
morning Kevin :)
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Hi Kevin
07:33:49
Looks steeamy out there.
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Also looks smoky out there.
07:35:21
yes it does. I here there are fires all around
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Hi, Kevin
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Hi Dave
07:38:30
Fire at Heart Lake is the closest to OF
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Anyone out there have a good link for a map of fires in the area?
07:40:16
hum...I used to have the incident site..i will look
07:41:03
Riverside 740ie
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07:41:38
Thanks, cb
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Anyone else have BSOD?
07:45:20
ok here
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Nevermind, it is back
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Not here...yet!
07:50:50
am i seeing things or was that Aurum?
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OF 757
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ynpvisitor31 changes nickname to Ryan
08:01:04
This HAS to be a first... geyser gazing... from 32,000ft!
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hope he didn't jump out
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Cam is on preset! Time to get ready for work!
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Have a great day all
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Bye cb
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bye kev
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08:09:31
Nice flow on Giantess.
08:10:32
Here's the fire page for YNP
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http://www.nps.gov/yell/parkmgmt/firemanagement.htm
08:10:53
Hi, Ryan. I almost did that in April. How's the view from up there?
08:10:53
The dewdrop fire is the largest right now - and has likely altered my sister's pack trip
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Thanks, Janet
08:11:23
inciweb (.com?) has the big fires on it
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.org - http://www.inciweb.org/
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08:13:44
Al Nash also does a lot of tweets about the fire weather/fire info
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And NOAA has a site to tell where the smoke you see is coming from: http://www.firedetect.noaa.gov/viewer.htm
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...sorry
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.
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.
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Castle 0912 ie
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09:27:41
I read some logs the other day about a bogus OF time, and the discussion.
09:28:27
Late a few nights ago someone entered a bogus Fountain time. Interval was good, but they couldn't have possibly posted from that location.
09:28:33
We had a few bogus entries yesterday also
09:28:51
It didn't last long, I think they deleted. But Fountain is a strange one for a "test"
09:29:25
Had one on OF yesterday. First time I had seen that.
09:30:06
I think you/we have enough knowledge here to validate, but it could be a problem without having to register on GNet
09:31:02
I understand trying a test, but adding bogus info is not good
09:31:10
Thought I'd tell you about that Ftn entry too.
09:31:53
I would like to see a trusted list (registered users) and a list to review.
09:32:24
Daisy 0932 ie
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I wonder if Jake has any ideas on the subject?
09:35:24
I have seen Lion steaming, but nothing from it. I notice a suspect entry on it at 0811.
09:36:51
At least you must register with Jake's site. Anyone can post from a phone on Glennon's app
09:36:54
This seems like a problem that needs to be dealt with soon
09:37:43
As the site becomes more well known, the data seems to become worse.
09:38:58
OF 0938
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Would Glennon mind tightening his site a little so people would have to register?
09:40:39
I don't trust anything without a name and some with names I don't trust at all.
09:41:59
Many citizen science places have teams to review the data regularly and to send suspect entries or entries that seem out of the norm.
09:42:08
Might work for GT
09:42:14
I would trend towards full names too, for looking at the data in a decade
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But hard to do with a volunteer base
09:42:59
I know who Siegmund is right now, but will I remember in 10 years? For example
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True.
09:48:12
This is all new, but with the logger situation this could be the standard for all future data
09:48:27
I agree, 45. Even if that info was held by GT and not put out on the internet. that way researchers would know who lc or cb or af or Dave from B was
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I was just going to notify you about that Ftn entry, then log out and reboot since I had so many timeouts.
09:54:04
Seems to be working now, go figure.
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whoa, my msgs came in the wrong order. I guess it's not working as well as I thought
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..
10:08:44
NG minor 1008
10:08:46
Kevin, looks like it is going to be a LONG day today. Hope you don't run out of NoDoz
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Well, maybe not
10:09:22
Controls are being a problem.
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I hit it too high and it insisted on the zoom before it would take anything else. I hate it when I get excited and miss.
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:)
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10:25:04
Kevin, how does Kyle like Watkins Glen?
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He has won it once. But with the luck he is having I don't know. He cannot afford any more problems.
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.
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got to mow. bbl.
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lc changes nickname to lc (bbl)
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10:35:48
Kevin, when I was on vacation my sprinkler system shut off because of a GFI switch. My lawn didn't get water for 8 days.
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Mine would be fried by then.
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I have lots of dry spots...not sure if they will come out of it this year with 95+ temps
10:38:01
About this time of year it is just survival for lawns. You don't try to make them green.
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ynpvisitor89 changes nickname to af-lurking
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good morning
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heads up I will be passive most of this time
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Hi, af
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OF 1058
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of 1058
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More connection issues, Kevin?
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Yes. My ISP. I think they are doing some line rerouting so they can build a flood channel just down the road.
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Livescope even had to be restarted.
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11:42:43
Kevin, how did you get into the pen business?
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Somebody gave me a wood pen about 15 years ago. I thought it was cool. Saw the stuff to make them in a magazine about 5 years ago.
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Finally bought it about a year ago and been doing it ever since.
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Won't be long and you will be doing Xmas orders again
11:46:32
Hunting season sells a lot of bullet pens
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.
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Daisy 1157
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..
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NG 1223
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2nd one today!
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Going to have to ask Jake to move NG off the 'Uncommon' list
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And put Plume on it!
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July 1st is last major for NG?
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Not sure Dave. Is that what is on GT.org?
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Last one listed as maj. There are a fewnot listed as min. And a belated hello, vw:)
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Hi Dave.
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OF 1230
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...reading the chat log about recent bogus data.
12:34:27
Hi glennon!
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hellooo
12:34:38
hi vw
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I missed that conversation. Are there lots of bad data recorded?
12:34:55
Hi, Glennon
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We have to whisper when glennon is here. He really is supposed to be working on that thesis... :D
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that's for sure!
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Hope he has his sound off
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LOL
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Sooooooo close glennon.
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right. i have a chapter to finish today.
12:37:34
Finishing is a good thing.
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Getting back to entries: Totally bogus data or just bad data (wrong time, wrong geyser id'd)?
12:40:11
some bad OF over the last few days and a bad Fountain (entered in real time)
12:40:54
Not really much we can do other than monitor. Can't get rid of stupid people.
12:40:55
Kevin noticed the 811 Lion was from a guest. There was a bad Fountain that was removed. A lot more bogus data entry from people trying out their phones or being funny. I would talk to Kevin. He is more up on the facts
12:41:08
that is, the fountain was reported as erupting at the same time it was reported (not possible given the lack of internet at fountain(
12:42:17
Does cell service ever make it to the LGB?
12:42:49
I never experienced there, but I can't be sure it doesn't.
12:43:22
i have done some experimenting, and have never found it to get cell service on any of the main four us carriers
12:43:23
With Fountain though, we will often get reports from gazers, so it can be checked later.
12:44:14
there are a number of solutions to the problem and i know all of us care to get the best data possible,
12:45:51
of course, my site and app is somewhat designed for anonymous visitor reports.
12:46:16
but, that does not mean those reports necessarily need to be made visible and contaminate the main data stream
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And for quick entry, especially for those in the basin.
12:47:20
Could you change it so any guest entries are with a *, notifying everybody that they are unverified reports?
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and of course keep them out of the computations for predictions?
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hmm. it's certainly possible. i'll have to think about if that's the best way to do it.
12:49:59
you see, i also have quite a bit of additional metadata for those guest reports that are not publicly accessible (ip address for the website and phone id data for the app)
12:50:39
i could do some background automated reputation evaluation