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Found 840 log entries for 2011-07-24
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good morning
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F&M overnite I see.
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OF 6:49
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Very pretty OF this morning...a long
07:00:48
very nice morning light
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ynpvisitor52 changes nickname to vw
07:05:36
Good morning!
07:05:47
morning
07:06:19
just checking the weather report in the basin. brb
07:06:48
at 0615 it was a blissful 31F at the OF Ranger station!
07:07:01
bw will be frosty in places this morning!
07:07:18
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?sid=OFAW4&table=1&banner=off
07:07:41
Wind is 'gusting' all the way to 1 mph. Whoa!
07:07:46
needs to be colder than that to kill the skeeters
07:09:04
Yes, and not likely to happen for another month or so. Heard the horseflies are pretty bad this year too.
07:09:50
ynpvisitor87 changes nickname to Graham
07:09:55
hello
07:10:05
Good morning Graham!
07:11:06
slow start this morning for me
07:11:32
Ditto here. Only have one cup of coffee in me.
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you have probably had too much time out in the sweltering weather to be feeling fresh?
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07:13:46
morning all
07:13:55
Good morning CC!
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ynpvisitor50 changes nickname to cb
07:14:02
yeah i want towalk but its nasty outside already
07:14:06
morning
07:14:06
Hi cb!
07:14:17
hey
07:14:22
cam ops all woke up!
07:14:23
when are you supposed to get a break in the weather Graham?
07:14:33
Party time?
07:14:46
and are all on the same page....
07:14:54
:D
07:14:56
Graham how was the opera]
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07:15:20
they were good - 2 short ones - and thankfully the AC was working very well in the tent
07:16:03
excellent
07:16:17
weather temp to break slightly today
07:16:30
possible thunder storms
07:16:37
you both are in the thick of it!! ughhhhh
07:16:52
Need more coffee and to get dressed. bbs
07:17:01
AC last year didnt work well - blasted some people while others baked but they had improved the tent a lot - a 250 person theater tent
07:17:01
got to be miserable
07:17:03
vw you had a temp break last ngith
07:17:18
you caught me!
07:17:22
cb what's happening your way
07:17:47
not much....washing the trailer today...weather is VERY comfortable
07:18:11
you still at the beach cc?
07:18:13
Yes, we had a lovely day yesterday with the weather.
07:18:30
back up to the 90's today here in Billings.
07:18:35
brb
07:19:02
home at the moment...friends still sleeping but they are leaving today
07:19:04
photos at the end of this album show the smaller tent two years ago
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heading to the beach for the afternoon to say goodbye to grandkids
07:19:29
stream doesn't seem to be workiing here very well ..will ck out the other sites
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07:19:53
sounds wonderful!!
07:20:02
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1073444284259.2011945.1470722670&l=11782ddf63&type=1
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07:20:55
thats quite the tent Graham!
07:22:13
ynpvisitor75 changes nickname to Kevin L
07:22:28
yeah and its bigger now
07:22:43
didnt take my cam this time
07:22:49
was just going to ask which one of us had the cam...i see now!! :)
07:23:41
Morning all
07:23:52
Hi Kevin
07:23:58
no overnight reports from Heinrick - maybe he mised Grand due to F&M?
07:24:07
and Visitors #14 69 30!
07:25:35
morning
07:26:00
Hi 14
07:26:18
whats the weather like in ur neck of the woods
07:26:54
I was thinking the same thing about HK but glad we heard about F&M via Tara
07:29:19
Read FB: Do you have official rules that say not to zoom on people?
07:29:51
It's a privacy issue 14.
07:30:12
The cams were installed to watch geysers, not people.
07:30:36
True, it's fun to see people we know, but didn't someone last year say they felt a little creepy knowing they were being watched?
07:31:00
We do occasionally check on people if we see they are in danger (getting too close to wildlife) or breaking the law.
07:31:36
I think the cam was installed to provide visitors a view of what they might see if they come to the park...just for the record, not just geysers
07:32:28
People who wave at the cam are sometimes zoomed in on too as by waving, they appear to WANT to be seen by family and friends. A lot of times you can see those same folks are talking on cell phones. You can almost hear the conversations: Hey look mom! It's me!
07:32:30
True, they might see a bear or bison or lightning or hail!
07:32:32
I got on it about 2 years ago at BH. My wife had to stay home and spotted us waiting on the benches, but the camera was zoomed in on the cone. I thought it was fun.
07:33:49
thats the main spot where we zoom in on BHI or the cone you can see ppl behid it. Plume also
07:34:08
I had the opposite at BH this spring, I was waving at gazers across the river and when I read the logs later it was assumed I was waving at the cam.
07:34:18
And certain people at BH is another Indicator!
07:34:37
She called me and asked if we were at BH, so the picture could not have been totally clear.
07:35:19
Except for people on the bw right in front of the cam, the focus is generally not good enough to see people clearly.
07:35:33
yeah its pretty pixelated that far away, usually need to know who is going to be there to know who you are seeing there
07:36:43
Were you watching Jim at the time of that complaint? It's not worth my time to check the logs, just curious if you remember
07:36:47
I see F&M think i am in the park
07:37:07
:)
07:37:14
I hate getting texts "are you at BH?" so I just don't answer.
07:37:59
wow...step away from the computer for coffee and the page is full
07:38:19
I don't know about the cam being zoomed on Jim. He is just usually front and center when BHI is erupting, so is likely to be seen on the cam.
07:38:49
depends if its the "are you waiting at BH" question or the "go to BH becasue BHI is going" command
07:39:03
I know last week I zoomed in on a visitor off the bw by OF and someone questioned why I was doing that. I explained why at the teim.
07:39:19
in winter if my phone rang i would start to head to BH before fumbling for it
07:39:20
time. fingers not awake either.
07:39:27
I was made a manager and told them they could call me if there was a problem. I got a call about 5 minutes into BHI. Needless to say the connection was "lost" for a half hour.
07:39:38
I think ....just for the record that there was some inuendo...(sp) that had to do w a cam op that resigned
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07:40:04
True Graham, sometimes eyes from the bleachers are good if there are fewer gazers around to radio
07:41:01
and you know how i love to sit and wait for GHI :)
07:41:06
BHI
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stepped away and thought you were calling it when I looked back!
07:44:07
sorry .. haha
07:44:11
I like GHI too.
07:44:24
Graham...last night we had a vistior asking why your not including the link for this page in ur report. They were curious and i didn't know the answer
07:44:48
i stopped because all the times are coming from the online logs now
07:44:54
of course the data is entered here too
07:45:04
this has all prompted some great conversation!!
07:45:31
I should repost the chat room link again sometime and the other webcam link that seems to work (#3)
07:46:05
that would be good!
07:46:38
I think some new people would come in if you kept offering the link. I've never tried googling to see if it can be found that way.
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trying to encourage the online tool use. itrs slowly gaining momentum .. i hope the sync gets fixed soon
07:48:20
So literally this would become "chat" specific when more people are aware of the other sites.
07:49:04
the online tool link is great..I use it here for aiming the cam and used it in the park along w the VEC pred center. but i still hold that for recording purposes the log book is the source!
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07:50:11
Agreed, it needs to be NPS record.
07:50:56
HAVE to add....and Jim's 7 oclock report!!!
07:51:59
Wish we could get more names, I like hearing who saw what during the day instead of just attributing it to MB's report.
07:52:09
Living vicariously.
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07:55:42
always interesting to see how historians in the future use geyser reports. old days it was news clippings. now we have the NPS log, these new logs, Ralphs data, the chat logs and other postings all over the place online
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07:57:04
Yes, some make FB that don't necessarily get reported elsewhere.
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morning
07:57:37
do you think that will dilute the credibility of the reports?? just wondering
07:57:38
Looks like a chat room today!
07:58:13
we have all had our coffee
07:58:37
I will read everything later. I was here yesterday, still wanting to ask about Tilt vs Tilt's baby.
07:59:14
to many cooks in the kitchen...Had a wonderful conversation w a fellow gazer in the park and this was what they said.in general
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08:00:23
that many people reporting to the online sites are reporting from other source thinking that they have actually seen the eruption when they are actually getting the info 3rd hand
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for example Jims am report includes times called from others, but are being log on the sites and Jims observation
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as = and
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That's kinda related to my thought about names, everything at 7am can be attributed to Jim
08:01:44
Hey we just said the same thing.
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and that was thought provoking...
08:02:02
in and out doing chores...
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ginks you owe me a coke
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All of these issues raise the point of needing to be specific in the entries and particularily in the comments.
08:02:35
we had some discussion before on what fields to capture online ....
08:02:50
the reporter, observer , but what if its 3rd hand?
08:03:23
If we KNOW it is third hand (FRS comes to mind) that info should be in the comments.
08:03:24
eventually we all give up and went with something fairly simple
08:03:49
its still better than the NPS log that just has a time - but then that log is limited as to who enters data
08:04:11
their point was that, and especially w the radio communication problems in the basin lately, info can be heard wrong and thus reported wrong
08:04:59
yep, always a problem cb .. and typos ....
08:05:13
have to keep it simple enough so ppl actually continue to report and log times :)
08:05:21
Yes, I was just going to say you have to be good at entering ##'s
08:06:24
now and then there are complaints about who is or isn't allowed to enter times in the NPS log - always an imperfect system
08:06:30
yes. and like i said it is VERY handy in the park...those of us w gadgets!!
08:06:35
That's pretty good here, others see and correct mistakes
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08:08:09
Daisy 0806
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per online logs
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Yes those with smarty phones can make good use of it, I think that's the best use
08:09:50
Those who collect data will use downloads, so my opinion is these cites are for gazing, webcam and fun.
08:10:01
was useful with Jake last Sept, coming back from LGB or elsewhere could see what had been logged .. needed it to keep up wit hthe BHI cycle
08:10:57
true 14 as long as the monitors are working and the reporting algorithms are correct
08:11:40
and for the geysers that are monitored (not many really in the bigger scheme of things)
08:11:55
True.
08:12:39
don't get the exciting sputnik series on Ralphs page
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but then again Jakes algorithm doesn't let them all get displayed either :(
08:13:56
I just feel the tenor of it all has changed, and perhaps being taken too seriously.
08:14:14
All reports should be encouraged.
08:15:06
They can be edited or flagged if you come up with something better.
08:15:22
Good point, I like the Sputnik info, haha.
08:15:25
Is it just me, or does Gaintess look hotter than normal today?
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Agree 14 - all reports should be encouraged - and consistance of reporting should be encouraged - and I think that's where we are today
08:16:36
Wouldn't that be great on a blue sky day!
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08:17:54
I like the 'less' or 'better'- that's better than saying "wrong" :)
08:18:55
the only place with specific recording requirements that I know of is the OF NPS logbook which is an official government record.
08:19:56
I was just concerned with value judgements which could discourage people from continuing to add times.
08:20:10
I realize this is a work in progress! And I think it's great that we have these sites.
08:22:02
It's also useful to know sometimes (e.g. historical record) if it was right or wrong if there is a sound truth to go by. Anyway this is sounding more like work now and way too serious for SUnday morning. Thats the last from me.
08:22:14
I still want to ask opinions about Tilt vs Tilt's Baby. Do we know why some say one and some say the other?
08:22:53
there are two features with seperate vents
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that was easy :)
08:23:30
So which is currently erupting? HK says Tilt, as in, the original.
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08:24:31
Who has been there recently to have a look?
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Tilt's Baby has been active the last few years and have seen several reports of it this year
08:26:00
easy to see as its right by the Castle Railing
08:26:37
I know where it is, loved the old vortex and sound.
08:26:59
But HK is citing what is erupting there now as Tilt. I thought it was filled in.
08:27:53
He said it cleared out
08:28:34
could be doiing the same as Bulger's hole....Graham ya have to hear the "sucking" sound Bulgers hole makes.....I LOVE IT!!!
08:28:36
Good, that's what I wanted to know. Did the overflow from Crested change direction?
08:28:53
Who will volunteer to go look and report back!!!
08:29:21
ok cb .. wheres the audio recording from your smartyphone?
08:30:11
I think OF erupted.
08:30:13
ahhhh.....welll...............hum..............
08:30:25
You are slacking cb.
08:30:28
My favorite drain is Vixen. Great sounds, deep tube. Wish we got more current reports from there.
08:30:52
0830ie?
08:31:04
I can repeat .....some on the benches made me repeat it several times.....all was so fun to be there as it started
08:31:05
Somewhere I have a video of the original tilt with all the sound. I will have to see if I can find it.
08:31:09
mine is Silex :)
08:32:34
I came baack to the benches and said...with my wonderful excitement....WOW you gottta hear the sucking sound the new hole makes....sounds like.....Ya...i got a laugh outta some on the benches
08:32:36
was that AUrum 0832ie?
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hard to tell with this wind direction
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08:35:01
parking lot cam timestamp is an hour ahead
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we can see into the future and get a good parking spot?
08:36:22
lots available in an hour
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bbl
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Plume 0838
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thanks for the Tilt info. I'll read your discussion in the logs later.
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have a good morning viewing
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4 legged - yeah first sighting in days
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Looks like more than 1.
08:56:59
yep .. bonus points
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mornin
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hi kc
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Castle 0930ie
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nowhere as pretty as last nights eruption
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Plume 0944
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Castle is a Major
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OF 0952
09:53:18
Good morning Michael!
09:53:34
Good morning. Got here just in time to see the geyser erupt!
09:53:47
Woohoo! Water!
09:53:59
Good timing!
09:57:37
so much steam it was hard to see when water stopped, but I think that was a long. Waiting for VEC to update prediction to make sure.
09:58:45
Sawmill 0958 ie
10:02:05
double sync between the two databases is working this morning.
10:02:26
Hi kc. Sorry I missed you before. Didn't see you come in, and you are being too quiet!
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hi vw, yeah im couch gazing this morning
10:06:47
Good for you!
10:07:10
If you want something to do, I have some laundry that needs somebody's attention...
10:08:00
your laundry now has my attention. wont get it cleanded and folded but u got it
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*cleaned
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That's how I do chores most of the time.
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:D
10:10:11
In fact right now I'm thinking really hard about cleaning accumulated clutter off the didning room table
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dining.
10:11:57
Turban and Rift? You'd think I'd know those clouds by now.
10:12:29
In my house that table is ONLY for clutter! On those 2 or 3 occasions a year when we think about eating at the table we also have to do a productivity analysis before deciding!
10:12:49
I am guessing Turban, but I am with you and trying to figure things out.
10:12:58
This is when a contact in the basin would be great!
10:18:37
Pretty sure that was Turban. Not so sure whether Rift is going. And I'd need to read HK's notes more carefully to learn how Grand ad Rift interact this year.
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10:21:24
Just checking. Was Beehive at about this time yesterday?
10:21:54
I haven't seen any play from West Triplet this morning to suggest Rift action, but haven't been watching full time either.
10:22:17
Yes. We are right at 24 hours.
10:22:40
Still looks pretty quiet now.
10:22:51
Yesterday's start was after a very long interval.
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over 17 hours.
10:23:32
Interesting. So we're less sure than usual what to expect today...
10:24:11
hard to use one very long interval to reset our stopwatches, but it does give one pause.
10:25:10
Grand is more consistently unreliable, so we never have that problem there.
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10:25:23
True!
10:26:00
Amazing how comfortable we get with regular intervals and then are disappointed when they don't play true.
10:32:18
VEC Prediction times: Castle 2230(+/-1h), Grand 1115(2h), Daisy 1050(30m), Riverside 1130(30m), Great Fountain 1945(2h)
10:34:18
Doesn't look like we have gazers at BH, so guessing they are at Grand.
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It seems there are a lot of things to watch for right now.
10:38:04
yes! That is a good thing.